Topic: Quran-burning

[shadylane]

 Florida pastor Terry Jones plans to commemorate Sept. 11 by burning copies of the Quran. What does he wish to gain from this? I think he is trying to get free publicity. The Department of homeland security probably views he as bait....

[kari]

Personally, I think the man is an idiot!  What does he think he will accomplish by burning another religion's Holy scriptures, in the role of a Pastor?  Wow, talk about a religion of peace and love he would be displaying Christianity to be!  If, he was just a member of a congregation, or just an every day "Joe", not a member of the Clergy, I'd say "whatever toots your horn", BUT he is a member of the Clergy. 

[shadylane]

Personally after reading as much of the Quran as I could stomach, I'm not very impressed. Mohammad would make Rush Limbaugh look like a tree hugging, save the whale's  liberal. I love to make fun of religions, as many of you have noticed. But I draw the line at burning books. When fire is used to destroy opinions, knowledge or cultures, nothing good has come from it...

[kari]

I agree, reading the Qur'an can be quite disturbing, but if you read other religions Holy scriptures, they are quite disturbing also!

[igahmah at work]

He is asking for notoriety and trouble.  What does he hope to accomplish, except to stir up more hatred?  I'm not a fan of the Muslim religion but when you start burning one book, holy or not, it can start a ball rolling that cannot be stopped.  Didn't Hitler burn books?

A hundred years before the advent of Hitler, the German-Jewish poet, Heinrich Heine, had declared: "Wherever books are burned, human beings are destined to be burned too."

[Pete]

He is trying to push it to the limit. Can he burn them, yes. Is it a show of disrespect, yes. The same can be said about building a Mosaic at or near the towers. Both you can do, both are really in bad tastes.

[tpgunbiz]

Im on the fence on this one. He has the right. But I agree it will open up a can of shit.

[matrsnot]

I too am on the fence.  But Obama is hilarious with his claim that "serious" violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan  may occur.  If war is not serious viloence, I am wondering what is.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/09/obama-calls-plan-burn-korans-stunt-urges-pastor/

[kari]

He is asking for notoriety and trouble.  What does he hope to accomplish, except to stir up more hatred?  I'm not a fan of the Muslim religion but when you start burning one book, holy or not, it can start a ball rolling that cannot be stopped.  Didn't Hitler burn books?

A hundred years before the advent of Hitler, the German-Jewish poet, Heinrich Heine, had declared: "Wherever books are burned, human beings are destined to be burned too."

[sarah page]

The Bible teaches tolerance, and this is not tolerance. I say he needs to go back to pastor 101 and get a new religion maybe if he's not going to teach tolerance. The book of Jude is the prime book in the Bible to read about tolerance.

[Coyote]

It's just paper, glue and ink.

[Chas]

The burning of books is NEVER a good thing.

[What_The?]

I too am on the fence.  But Obama is hilarious with his claim that "serious" violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan  may occur.  If war is not serious viloence, I am wondering what is.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/09/obama-calls-plan-burn-korans-stunt-urges-pastor/

You have serious mental problems.

I think everyone can see that there is already serious violence in those countries against American interests, and I think even Sarah Palin could connect the dots and see that it will lead to increased violence against troops and contractors in the Middle East.

Okay, probably giving Palin too much credit, but if she sat down and let Trig explain it to her for a few hours each night, she might get it in a few weeks.

Not so sure about you though.

[What_The?]

It's just paper, glue and ink.

And the American flag is just cloth and ink.

Care to give your views on Muslims burning the American flag?

[Geezer Glide Taz]

Burning the Muslim Quran because of what some radical Jihad Muslims did on 911, makes about as much sense as having a Bible burning days because the West Buro Baptist Church demonstrates at soldier funerals and walks on the American flag. It is not sending a message out to anyone, it is creating more hatred. Period.

[Coyote]

True.  Muslims aren't the only group that burns the American flag.  We have plenty of haters right here in the U.S.   A burning object can't/shouldn't change your heart, mind, and faith.

And the American flag is just cloth and ink.

Care to give your views on Muslims burning the American flag?

[matrsnot]

You have serious mental problems.

I think everyone can see that there is already serious violence in those countries against American interests, and I think even Sarah Palin could connect the dots and see that it will lead to increased violence against troops and contractors in the Middle East.

Okay, probably giving Palin too much credit, but if she sat down and let Trig explain it to her for a few hours each night, she might get it in a few weeks.

Not so sure about you though.

Obama has shown his true idiocy with such a statement.  War is serious and violent business and Obama's words show has no grasp of what war is. How much more violent does he imagine?  Oh, I forgot, the Gunfreezones of Chicago are more dangerous than the war zone.  FACT

[Chas]

It is not just Obama saying that. U.S. generals and politicians from both sides are saying it. Fact the first time I heard someone  say it could put troops in danger was from a General. This would be danger on top of the danger they face during war.  Other world leaders are saying not to do it.  There is no reason to burn the Quran.  I don’t like to see our flag burned and for the Nazi preacher to do this is no better.
To say the president has no understanding of war is a true idiocy statement.  I would say any president that sends people to war has a better understanding then most people on what war means. Go back and read what others have said before you single someone out. Obama was not the first person to make a statement like that.   If you did not such a hatred for the president  you would know and probably do know what he meant by that statement, but your hatred doesn’t allow you to agree with anything.

[freethinker]

coyote, most of those people who burn the flag in this country are not doing so because they hate america.. they are doing so to remind people that americans are free to do what they want as long as they are not hurting anyone else.

as for the actual topic of this thread:
let the guy burn his books. i'm assuming he paid for them, which means he is free to do what he wants with his property. what this guy is doing and what he thinks it will accomplish is irrelevant. that it has become a topic of national debate is evidence that we, as a nation, have become obsessed with the muslim religion. we are unwittingly showing more consideration to the feelings of people who live outside this country when all of you should be saying "oh well, even idiots have the right to do what they want in America"..  if you don't approve of it, that's fine. you're entitled to say so. but to care about what the radical muslims [who already hate us] might do because of it...  why are we even talking about that?
We are Americans. We do things differently. Our laws are in place for the protection and freedoms of OUR citizens, and none of you should care either way how someone who's opinion isn't backed up by the ability to vote thinks about it...

seriously..  WHO CARES what these people think? no matter which way you cut it, THEY STILL HATE US. 

have any of you even considered the possability that the attacks on 9/11 pale in comparison to the amount of damage we have caused fighting amongst ourselves since it happen?

[Chas]

I wonder how the preacher will feel if after he burns the books some Muslims take upon themselves to kill someone because of this.  Even Muslims that are not radical could become that way because of this. One must consider that when comes to religion even the calm Muslims become outraged over something like this and that is what people are afraid of. That something as stupid as this which proves nothing and changes nothing can get people killed.  Do I like Islam, No.?  Do I think that most people that follow this faith are more zealous then most, yes? This is where the problem lies.  While they hate us, is it worth someone life because some backwater preacher wants his 15 min. of fame?

[Coyote]

Is it worth tip-toeing around so we don't make someone upset or hurt someone's feelings...ever?  Extremists are ALWAYS looking for a "credit" to take for the hateful things they do to their own and others.  Cutting off a girl's feet for dancing?  Stoning women to death for adultry (man doesn't get in any trouble)?  So what difference does it make...what will they do?  Declare Jihad on Gainsville?  I say lock and load.

[Chas]

But what is the point in burning a book? This will accomplish nothing. They are nothing more than radical Christians. I put them in the same league as radical Muslims.  They are doing nothing but spreading hate and fear.

[BigRedHouse]

Is it worth tip-toeing around so we don't make someone upset or hurt someone's feelings...ever?  Extremists are ALWAYS looking for a "credit" to take for the hateful things they do to their own and others.  Cutting off a girl's feet for dancing?  Stoning women to death for adultry (man doesn't get in any trouble)?  So what difference does it make...what will they do?  Declare Jihad on Gainsville?  I say lock and load.

our government is worried about what will happen in Florida...it is worried about the Soldiers in the Middle east.   Voilence will outbreak and Soldiers will be put in more hars way than they already are.  We have spent a long time trying to build relations with the muslims that are not busy trying to kill Americans...allowing the violence to happen would be a step backward.   If stopping this guy from burning books saves the life of just one Soldier then I say stop it.  I am an advocate for freedom of speech and  If he feels that strongly about it...he can buy a ticket and fly to the middle east and burn one. 

[♥♣ ~Maynard~♣♥]

Book burning canceled.
Now pastor Terry Jones will meet with the Iman in NYC to see if they will move the site of the Mosque?
Remember you heard it first here on PCW..       

[FordGuyu]

It's just a publicity stunt... it's a ridiculous idea in the first place.

However, saying that it would "put troops in harms way" is a bit redundant don't you think?

They're already in harms way.

I think the mosque thing was just a ploy as well. I don't believe it will be built.

[What_The?]

It's just a publicity stunt... it's a ridiculous idea in the first place.

However, saying that it would "put troops in harms way" is a bit redundant don't you think?

They're already in harms way.

I think the mosque thing was just a ploy as well. I don't believe it will be built.

Pouring gas on the fire isn't redundant, its stupid.

[FordGuyu]

Pouring gas on the fire isn't redundant, its stupid.

Not convinced that the people who would kill our troops overseas really give a damn what we're doing over here. They may say it's in retaliation for this that and the other, but bottom line, they already hate us, to them, it's already (and has long been) a religious war. I still think the idea is idiotic (burning quran's).

[kari]

I think the mosque thing was just a ploy as well. I don't believe it will be built.

You may be right there.....  It may well be a way of forcing people to "buy them out", and make money from the whole thing!  After all, it's been reported that the major investor said "for the right price", they would sell the building.  I hope no one offers one penny to buy it!  Since those involved with the proposed mosque knows the 9/11 families are against it, many Americans have voiced their opposition, and I believe no ground work has begun on it..... money could be what they were actually wanting.  Press the American people with our Constitutional right of Freedom of Religion, building an Islamic Center, NOT a multicultural center, in an area that was attacked by fundamentalist Muslims, where tempers run high... yep, could well have been a ploy to make a financial gain.

[2CardJohnE]

There would not be a problem if there was no media to report about it...let him stand alone with his stick and bag of marshmello's and see who gives a rats azz about a crazy man and his bon fire.
   no one to watch it and i bet he dont even start a fire

[matrsnot]

Book burning canceled.
Now pastor Terry Jones will meet with the Iman in NYC to see if they will move the site of the Mosque?
Remember you heard it first here on PCW..       

I think a perfect location would be Alcatraz.