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No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« on: May 16, 2012, 08:46:10 PM »
In case you’re wondering, I’m using the word “cannot” properly in the above title. No, I don’t mean “same-sex couples should not marry” — rather, they aren’t capable of doing so. What am I talking about?
Barack Obama’s coming out party notwithstanding, the question in this debate should never be one of rights. It should be one of definitions. If we accept that marriage is, by definition, the union between a man and woman and nothing else, the faux-marriage-rights argument is moot.
For you cannot have a right to that which doesn’t exist.
This isn’t just semantics. If social engineers insist on pushing faux marriage, we must demand that they first attempt to redefine the institution.
“Have you gone off your rocker, Duke?! This is precisely what we’re fighting!” some will now say.
Actually, no, it isn’t.
This is because there is no widely accepted and professed alternative definition to fight. For the Left has not sought to redefine marriage.
They are “undefining” it.
After all, what is the Left’s argument? They don’t focus on definitions any more than the Right does; they don’t say, consistently and boldly, “Marriage is the union between any two adults; therefore, there is no reason to exclude same-sex couples.” They won’t tread there.
There are a couple of reasons why. First, leftists are confused: They never have a clear vision of what they want to create, only what they want to destroy (i.e., the status quo). Second, redefining marriage would be a tactical disaster for them, as they’d relinquish a huge hammer they pummel the opposition with: the accusation that traditionalists are being “exclusive” and “discriminatory” and are denying people rights. For if you establish boundaries — anywhere — you’re excluding and discriminating against whoever lies beyond them.
So leftists won’t offer any alternative definition; instead, they simply imply that the right definition is wrong. And this is where they lose the debate. For if you cannot say what marriage is, how can you be so sure about what it isn’t?
This failure to redefine marriage also puts the lie to the Left’s claim that their actions won’t lead to the recognition of other conceptions of “marriage,” from polygamy to inter-species unions (yes, this does happen). This isn’t as silly as it sounds. Remember that an undefinition excludes nothing. If you refuse to establish boundaries, then the sky — or Hades — is the limit.
Thus, while the Left’s focus on rights helps them win the immediate marriage battle, it also ensures the loss of civilization. After all, once you undefine something, you have destroyed it — at least in people’s minds. For if something exists, if it is real, it is a certain thing and thus can be defined. “Bird” refers to a specific creature, but if “bird” could mean fish, insect, chair or pepperoni pizza — if it could mean anything — the term would lose meaning. Likewise, if marriage can mean anything, it will ultimately mean nothing. It will simply be a “something” and be destroyed as a meaningful institution.
To understand the implications of this, realize that marriage exists not as a “right” that brings self-fulfillment but to stabilize the family. It encourages men and women to fulfill their obligations to each other and their children. Thus, an attack upon marriage is an attack upon the family. And, since the family is the central building block of civilization, if you destroy it, you have destroyed civilization.
Except perhaps for a few Machiavellian types, the Left doesn’t understand this; like all emotion-driven people — like children — they know only what they want at the moment. But wiser heads should refuse to discuss the issue as what it isn’t: a matter of rights. Instead, be steadfast in the understanding that faux marriage simply doesn’t exist. Oh, people can still pretend to marry; heck, we did that in first grade (only boys and girls back then). But dismiss this as child’s play — and a rather twisted variety of it at that.
This is why I seek to control the language and use the term “faux marriage.” For the side that defines the vocabulary of a debate, wins the debate. Thus, using the Lexicon of the Left — in this case, the oxymoronic euphemism “gay marriage” — is disastrous; it’s likewise a mistake using “traditional marriage,” for what is the other side of that coin? Both terms either state or imply that a mythical institution called “gay marriage” exists.
What will happen once citizens accept this idea? Well, homosexuals are people, too, and if their conception of “marriage” exists, many will conclude that it’s wrong to deny recognition of it. Hey, how can you not recognize — in the sense of perceiving — something that exists? And once personal recognition becomes widespread, legal recognition is nigh.
This is why states err when proposing laws and constitutional amendments limiting marriage to a man and woman. Instead, their measures should state, “Marriage is defined as the union between a man and a woman.” Again, this isn’t just semantics. When these measures go to court and judges are left to rule on the constitutionality of limiting who may marry, they can easily rationalize that such laws violate the equal-protection clause. But if the law is framed as I suggest, this argument becomes illogical, as no one is being denied anything. After all, a homosexual certainly can — and may — marry just as anyone else may; he may form a union with a member of the opposite sex. As for heterosexuals, they cannot form a legally sanctioned union with a member of their own sex any more than anyone else can. Thus, controlling the definition would help control the courts.
Of course, our “creative” judges can spin anything, so there are no guarantees. But we ought to ask: If they would rule that same-sex couples have a right to “marriage,” with what definition are they working? After all, the only consistent definition out there is the one the West has operated by for millennia. There is nothing else except an effort that amounts to an “undefinition,” an unraveling of part of civilization’s bedrock. And you cannot have a right to what doesn’t exist.
 
http://thenewamerican.com/opinion/selwyn-duke/item/11404-no-mr-president-same-sex-couples-cannot-marry

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2012, 10:24:13 PM »
The gay marriage issue is pretty easy to understand when its broken down into motives.

People are afraid of what they don't understand.  Its an easy explanation.  Its always been a survival tactic of humans to avoid what they don't know.  Fear of the unknown kept their tribes alive at one time.

People are afraid of change.  Its just basic human behavior.  Its not necessarily a bad thing.  Its just an instinct like so many others.  The culture in which people are raised and what they are taught also plays a direct influence on what they will or will not deem acceptable behavior.

The prejudice created by religions is also a constant detour to equal rights for those outside of the opposing religions.  This intolerance of anything outside of one groups beliefs should be unacceptable in American Society.  It goes against the basis of the basic freedoms that are supposed to be empowered upon its citizens.  Intolerance of one groups practices are the very reason this country was founded (historically).

Personally I've never thought that allowing gay couples to marry would hurt anything other than the egos of those opposed.  I'm a believer that the entire "institution of marriage" is flawed anyway.  It isn't about two people loving one another anymore and performing a ceremony to celebrate that union.  Marriage is about wealth accumulation and distribution.  If it was about anything else why would this issue matter?  Religious groups who are against gay marriage could then in effect just refuse to accept gay marriage as anything valid in their belief system.  Gay couples could marry under their own terms and ceremonies and it would be no different than someone celebrating a child's birth or someone's anniversary.  It would just be a ceremonial practice that resulted in a celebration that didn't effect anyone not involved.

I don't think there should be any legal benefits or handicaps resulting from ANY marriage.  It should just be a private ceremony that is symbolic to those involved.  Everything gets complicated when the government becomes involved.  Its all unnecessary.  The prejudice against it is unnecessary.  The paperwork surrounding it is unnecessary.

There was another group that deemed millions of people inferior because they existed outside of their beliefs...  Nazi Germany. 

We know how that ended.

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2012, 05:49:31 AM »
DN, Jews, blacks and homosexuals were among those "inferiors".  Hitler had a very difficult time at the 1936 Olympics when Jesse Owens showed up the so called Aryans.  It seems a bit out of whack that people can discuss this yet the federal government does not recognize these marriages. 
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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2012, 08:52:58 AM »
same sex marriage is an abnormal relationship. it cannot produce offspring without the help of a hetrosexual relationship. By itself, it does not form a family and that family cannot grow. the abnormal lifestyle it promotes is not a positive influence on society. if it was same, sex marriage would not have the oppostion it has. it would not be allowed in only 6 states. it would be approved by voters instead of governors and judges. Jews and blacks were born that way, gays are not.

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2012, 12:28:57 PM »
I can't understand how my family is not a positive influence on society. All of our kids are happy healthy individuals. They are all honor students , all play sports or are active in Theatre programs, gymnastics..etc. All of our kids are respectful, helpful and well rounded. We as a family are much like my family was growing up. All very close, all do chores and have responsibilities. My children are polite and we as a family are not much different from most. I understand that it is pointless to even respond to any of the post on this site on this topic but it really pisses me off when people insinuate that I am some how abnormal and can't possibly add anything positive to this world because of my sexual orientation. I see families everyday that don't teach their kids respect or the whole family is ate up with drugs. Kids grow up being ingrates. Yet becasue of one aspect of my life that someone disagrees with I can't possible lend anything positive or worthwhile to this world?
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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2012, 01:25:37 PM »
you make some good points lobo, same sex marriage is not the only detriment to the family unit.

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2012, 04:24:04 PM »
I will weigh in on the subject.  Some of the comments made absolutely sicken me.  To tell someone that they are abnormal and therefore could not contribute in a positive way is discrimination pure and simple.  Where do we stop?  What about the hetero couples that cannot have children without artificial reproductive assistance?  Lets go further.  Those that are severely disabled (mentally and/or physically)..  I could go on and on...  I am not homosexual nor bisexual but you can be damned sure that I am not going to go around and castigate and judge another person because I am not a homosexual/bisexual person.  What consenting adults do between them is THEIR business and it surely isn't mine.  If I judge a person it is based on their capacity to love and to be a good individual. 

I honestly don't even care if someone wants to judge me because of my stance.  It doesn't bother me one little bit....  I am very comfortable with who I am , what I believe (faith) and I know that my God is a loving god........ 
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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2012, 07:04:28 PM »
and you hit it on the head carpenter. If the gays would just shut the hell up and keep to themselves instead of demanding acceptance for their abnormal lifestyle, all would be fine. instead they have parades and demand rights.

and government needs to stay out of some things. let their " right" to get married go on the ballot. if the voters pass or reject it, so be it. let the military manage their people, the military's purpose is not to be a testing ground for social engineering.


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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2012, 07:27:38 PM »
My gosh.. I think I understand you know.. how dare they think that they could have the same rights as you or I have?  That is why they march and demand their rights.  It is because they DON'T have the same rights that you and I enjoy.  Then again, those type of drastic actions have been taken by other persecuted races/groups over the passage of time right?  So that means that they were all wrong as well?  No, it means that you don't agree with their lifestyle therefore you lash out at them ... I'm not asking you to embrace their choices but your comments you make are the very reason they march....
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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2012, 08:48:04 PM »
I would like to know what makes a gay "lifestyle" so abnormal.  There have been gay people all throughout history.  Alexander the Great was bisexual.  And wow...guess what...I was raised by two heterosexual parents.  I was surrounded by heterosexuals my entire life.  I was taught by them.  I am still gay.  I have been gay since the day I was born.  I am a productive member of society.  I work two jobs.  I pay taxes.  I have a family. So the only difference is the fact that my partner is another man.  OMG....the world is going to burst into flames.  Nope didn't happen.  Live and let live.



Gay people have to march and protest for equal rights because we are denied basic human rights.  You only hate people because they are pieces of your self.  As a fellow human being, I want you to know that I love you and I wish you well in life.  Maybe one day, you will find it in your heart to love your fellow man, even if you do not agree with him.


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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2012, 07:29:23 AM »
I have a belief and I believe that a Marriage should be between a Man and a women. That is my belief but I will not judge others that believe in gay marriages. Everyone makes their own choices in life. Everyone will answer to God one day. He is our only Judge. I am not saying it is wrong or right, if  you want a same sex relationship and that is what makes you happy that is up to you but I have to agree with a few people on here. Why all the Gay rights parades? Why make a big deal about being Gay?

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2012, 07:54:49 AM »
I respect your right to your own beliefs...  but until you have been singled out and denied a right that that should be yours to have you will never understand why they protest, march, etc.  Go back and read your history.  Civil Rights movement, Women's right to vote movement, etc.  The folks involved in those situations thought that their issues were a big deal so why would Gay individuals feel any different and moreso why should they?
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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2012, 09:34:03 AM »
the difference is that women and blacks were and are born that way, they are entitled to equal rights. gays are not born that way.

if you don't like being singled out for an abnormal lifestyle, change your lifestyle.

I didn't say gays are abnormal, just their chosen lifestyle is. but some could be abnormal, just like hetro people.

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2012, 09:55:02 AM »
That is your opinion (which you are entitled to)  Please understand that numerous studies from reputable researchers have proven otherwise.  I'm not just talking about biased reporting supporting opposing views but actual investigative research for research sake so there isn't an agenda to prove or disprove. 

Also you are splitting hairs with your comment made " same sex marriage is an abnormal relationship ".  You say you aren't calling them abnormal but in fact you truly are. 

I have never understood folks who slam and bash something that they don't understand or don't believe in themselves.  I'm not a Jew but I don't denigrate their practices and beliefs.  I'm not Muslim either (and contrary to popular belief true Muslims ARE peaceful people)...etc...  I seek to peacefully coexist with my fellow man.  As long as they are decent and kind people what difference does it make what they do in the privacy of their homes just the same as what difference does it make to me what YOU do in the privacy of your home? 

I was raised not to judge another man lest I be judged.  Who am I to castigate and persecute someone who doesn't share my practices and beliefs. 

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2012, 09:59:07 AM »
The military is a testing ground for social engineering. Think of segregation and women rights.
The argument that allowing gay people the key word being people will allow people to marry animals and rocks is as dumb as it sounds. Like I said before if someone being gay affects your marriage then quit sleeping with your neighbor that is the same sex as you. That is the only way it can affect your marriage.
You don’t like gay people you don’t have to be friends with them. If you have gay friends but think they are second-class citizens then you are not a friend.  I don’t want to see gay people making out in public but I don’t want to see anyone making out in public.  Well maybe two hot women but hey, who doesn’t.
Whether you like it or not we are secular nation first so all citizens deserve the same rights. Second if you want to bring God into then do away with Justice of the Peace and online ministers that perform marriages. If marriage is in the eyes of the Lord, do away with the line by the power of the State__ I now pronounce you man and wife. Do away with the tax breaks for married couple if you want government out of it.
Gay rights parades never seen one except in a movie. I don’t watch them on the news and you don’t have to either.  In the end no one on here or anywhere for that matter has ever gave a convincing argument about how gay people marrying affect my marriage.

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2012, 04:53:16 PM »
First and foremost...get rid of your uneducated information.  Being gay is a combination of genetics and hormone exposure as a fetus.  Being gay is NOT a choice.  Do a little bit of actual scientific/medical research into it.  If you don't believe in gay marriage, then don't marry someone of the same-sex.  If you want to protect marriage, outlaw divorce.  The same things you are saying right now about why gays shouldn't be allowed to marry is the same argument the Church used when they tried to keep blacks from marrying whites.  Find a new argument.  I believe our founding fathers said "All men are created equal."



Gay Pride parades celebrate the first big step of the gay rights movement, that is why there are gay pride parades. The Stonewall Riots.  At Stonewall, the gay citizens of this country had finally had enough of being beaten by cops that they stood up and fought back.  That is why we have Gay Pride Parades.   You want to have a Straight Pride Parade, feel free.  I will celebrate with you as I believe diversity is a good thing.


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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2012, 05:39:48 PM »
Hmmmm I think theres a big difference between a gay rights march and a "Gay Pride Parade"
I have been to a Gay Pride Parade and to me it was all about showing off and acting the fool :jester:
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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2012, 06:11:26 PM »
Gay Pride Parades are fun and full of people acting a fool.  It is a time when people can be proud of who they are and not worry about anything else.
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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2012, 09:34:05 PM »
and it still has not been proven a gay gene exists!

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2012, 10:20:18 PM »
and it still has not been proven a gay gene exists!

 
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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2012, 08:59:53 AM »
Maynard that was a good one...   

Fish...  your argument is lame, there is much research to show that there IS something to support that some folks are just born oriented a certain way.  Just like the research into what causes diseases... for example breast cancer.  Millions of millions of women and even men have died from breast cancer over the years.  Drs. just knew that in many instances that there had to be a genetic familial link but couldn't prove it.  Millions of dollars of research went into this and it took YEARS for them to finally find a marker gene that is showing some promise in helping those with a genetic coding for this insipid disease. 

Now using your own thinking...   all those years that families suffered death after death, "knowing " that there had to be something to the fact that breast cancer ran in their family.  Does the fact that science just now is finding this out make the deaths of their loved ones not significant or relevant to the facts?

You can't cherry pick and use words to support your stance that you are a homophobe and anything or everything to do with homosexuality is taboo to you.  We get that.  We understand that .  That is your right to feel that way.  Just be prepared to garner attention when you post information on a public open forum that doesn't fall in goose step with your thinking. 


I just don't see the big whoop about all of this.  I have plenty of friends and acquaintances that are straight, bi or homosexual.  I treasure them for the beautiful people that they are and not what they do in the privacy of their homes.
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2012, 11:15:26 AM »
prove it. if there was a gay gene(not maynards LOL) then there would be no debate. it would be proof gays are born that way. nurture is how gays are made, either the way they were raised or their environment. they ain't born that way. breast cancer in men is rare, but that is proof of a gay gene? LOL LOL

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2012, 11:27:14 AM »
Its easy to prove with an answer to this question Fish?
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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2012, 11:42:49 AM »
Yet again you deflect proven medical research with words ....  easy to hide behind words isn't it?  I'll answer your inane parry with my proven facts.  It took medical science YEARS & YEARS and millions of dollars of research to prove a fact that was widely surmised I.E. Breast Cancer genetic link. So the fact that they haven't been able to isolate something similar with homosexuality makes it ?

The comment made about male breast cancer being rare and somehow laughable since you don't see the relevance is deplorable.  It shows just how little regard you feel for your fellow man.  That somehow something that takes lives is indeed LOL LOL according to you. 

Tell that to a former close friends of mine (family) who lost their husband/brother/father to breast cancer. 

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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2012, 01:42:39 PM »
I called your attempt to connect breast cancer in men as a tie to a gay gene laughable, and still do. twist it all you want, but you can't prove there is a gay gene because there ain't one! We are all born straight, homosexuality is a choice. why have some former gays reverted back to hetrosexuality?

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« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2012, 02:32:13 PM »
I called your attempt to connect breast cancer in men as a tie to a gay gene laughable, and still do. twist it all you want, but you can't prove there is a gay gene because there ain't one! We are all born straight, homosexuality is a choice. why have some former gays reverted back to hetrosexuality?
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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2012, 02:42:15 PM »
My reference in using breast cancer research was to show a highly relevant side to medical research and gene tracking which was obviously lost to you - go figure .    ***(((*

Another comment you made " why have some former gays reverted back to hetrosexuality "  First of all the word is HETERO not hetro and have you looked up the word bisexual?  To say that because a person who has had sexual relations with both women and men , although one sex solely for any period of time only to revert back to the opposite sex does not mean that they are homosexual.  It means that they are BISEXUAL and they are drawn to both sexes. 

I think (might be wrong but I doubt it) that you are a true homophobe.  You lead a very rigid and sheltered life overall.  Wildly lashing out at anything that you feel is against what you hold as "normal".  You truly do not understand the concepts presented,  so well thought out relevant posts to you are just a waste of time and space.   You never answer questions posted to you nor do you respond to facts when given that are widely supported by the medical community.  Other than to say comments like  "
but you can't prove there is a gay gene because there ain't one! "...  like that is a well educated thought out response.   I could turn around and say pardon the NEENER NEENER NEENER ...  YOU CAN'T SAY THAT THERE ISN'T ONE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T FOUND IT YET ~! 

Such ideology is akin to the nutjobs of Westboro Baptist Church where they spew hatred just because they can.  You can't present any relevant factual information to them because they don't care.  All they want is chaos and discord.  They don't want to understand, they don't want to listen.  Very close minded and shuttered with hate and contempt.

....   My dad's old saying comes to mind (God rest his soul)...   I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

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If you have no desire to protect yourself or your family, that is your choice. My ability to do so is nonnegotiable.

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2012, 06:00:08 PM »
you are all over the place and you still haven't given any proof there is a gay gene. yeah it is fun having a battle of wits with an unarmed man(?).

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2012, 06:02:27 PM »
Hey maynard, don't take this the wrong way, but I hope you have to get many more colonoscopies!

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Re: No, Mr. President, Same-sex Couples Cannot Marry
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